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Matt Osborne's avatar

Really glad you got in this fight.

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Steersman's avatar

"The 'trans' experiment will be remembered as the great medical error of our era."

Indeed. Though more like a crime of the century, a medical scandal to rival "Dr." Mengele and the Tuskegee Syphilis Study combined.

But a rather thorough and damning indictment from you. Though, maybe arguably -- or maybe inarguably, that scandal indicts pretty much all of society for being asleep at the switch -- the sleep of reason breeds monsters; for being scientifically illiterate; for careless acceptance of "conventional wisdoms"; for accepting "small lies" with no awareness of the bigger ones following in their wake.

Something of a case-in-point is afforded by the too facile acceptance of the concept of "sex-change" which may have had its "birth" some 70 years ago:

"1952: It’s front-page news when George Jorgensen Jr. is reborn as Christine Jorgensen, gaining international celebrity and notoriety as the first widely known person to undergo a successful sex-change operation."

https://www.wired.com/2010/12/1201first-sex-change-surgery/

Though maybe moot whether that phrase was actually used then. But some million hits from Google on the term, more than of few of which "engender" some eyebrow raising, notably this from, all places, Alberta's Health Services:

"A person’s sex and gender are determined by a variety of factors – not simply genetics."

https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/assets/info/pf/div/if-pf-div-terms-and-phrases-to-avoid.pdf

In any case, some reason -- and no shortage of evidence, to argue that a large part of the problem is the view -- mostly on "our" side -- that "sex is immutable". Something of a fairly popular mantra spouted by all and sundry from Maya Forstater to Suzanne Moore in her recent review of a book on the Tavistock scandal:

https://suzannemoore.substack.com/p/a-review-of-time-to-think-the-book

IF having a vagina or a penis-and-testicles -- or reasonable facsimiles thereof -- constituted the "necessary & sufficient conditions" to qualify as a female or male, respectively, THEN, of course, sex-changes would necessarily follow. On the other hand, IF having an XX or an XY karyotype constituted the same necessary and sufficient conditions to qualify as female or male, respectively, THEN "immutable" would, likewise, necessarily follow.

The point is that the conclusions follow from the premises, at least if we're not going by wishful thinking -- which, rather sadly, seems to characterize much of the transgender issue.

However, neither of those premises, neither of those definitions are at all what comprise the biological definitions stipulated in credible biological journals such as Theoretical Biology, and Molecular Human Reproduction. From the Glossary of the latter:

"Female: Biologically, the female sex is defined as the adult phenotype that produces [present tense indefinite] the larger gametes in anisogamous systems.

Male: Biologically, the male sex is defined as the adult phenotype that produces [present tense indefinite] the smaller gametes in anisogamous systems."

Gamete competition, gamete limitation, and the evolution of the two sexes (Lehtonen & Parker [FRS]):

https://academic.oup.com/molehr/article/20/12/1161/1062990

And from those premises, from those definitions, it necessarily follows that to have a sex is to have functional gonads of either of two types, those with neither being sexless -- hardly "immutable".

"wishful thinking" doesn't characterize just the transgendered; it's ubiquitous on virtually all sides of the whole transgender clusterfuck and from top to bottom. As Walt Kelly's Pogo put it many years ago, "We have seen the enemy -- and he is us" ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo_(comic_strip)

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